Apr 19, 2007

Oldboy, Cho Seung Hui, and inspiration

The latest hypothesis in a long list is that Cho Seung Hui was "inspired" by Oldboy, a violent South Korean film. The connection: a hammer.
In the photo, the killer brandishes a hammer - the signature weapon of the protagonist in "Oldboy" - in a pose similar to one from the film.

The 2003 film, directed by Chan-wook Park, won the Gran Prix prize at the Cannes Film Festival in 2004. The second of Park's "Vengeance Trilogy," the movie is about a man unjustly imprisoned for 15 years. After escaping, he goes on a rampage against his captor. In one scene, he dispatches over a dozen henchmen with the aid of a hammer.

The connection was spotted by Professor Paul Harris of Virginia Tech, who then alerted the authorities, according to London's Evening Standard.
Ironically, the film--and the trilogy--is about the ultimate futility of revenge. Of course, with all his references to Christ and crucifixion, it's equally plausible that Hui was "inspired" by The Passion of the Christ. Even more plausible, he saw Taxi Driver, and went the way of Travis Bickle--or some bizarre combination of the three.

I don't know what this proves about violence in cinema. It's not as if we blame late-night AM UFO talk shows for the babblings of street corner schizophrenics, though the two are sometimes indistinguishable. Cho Seung Hui was clearly mad, and madness is its own way of seeing.

Update: Grady Hendrix makes the connection in just the right way.
The "Vengeance Trilogy" is difficult, painful to watch, and obsessed with depicting revenge as the ultimate act of narcissism—a way to wallow in your problems and proclaim "Oh, poor me" with a hammer.

2 comments:

The Starmaker said...

The only way to eradicate the Hollywood virus is for the members of the family of the
32 people who were killed *and* Cho Seung-Hui family members, in the worst shooting rampage in modern U.S. history,
is for those family members to file a class action suit against all the major studios that put out this stuff.

This time they'll win.


The Starmaker



The Starmaker wrote:
>
> Evil is a disease of the mind.
> And it spreads from one mind to another.
> And Hollywood facilitates the spreading of this diseases.
>
> I don't think I want to live in a world where people who use Evil
> as an ingredient in their products to sicken the minds of our children with the Evil diseases.
>
> There's nothing I can do about you adults.
>
> But you got to save the babies.
>
> ..
>
> Certainly people like this wouldn't be allowed in Heaven!
>
> There is probably a place for them in Hell. But not Heaven!!
>
> And I certainly don't want to be in a Heaven where people like these are let in!!!
>
> What kind of God would allow that?
>
> And certainly, they shouldn't be on this Earth either.
>
> We are all just David's in a world of Goliaths.
>
> The Starmaker
>
> This 23 year old, Cho Seung-Hui caught the disease from Hollywood.
> http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1261563,00.html
>
> on a personal note....would you believe...that I plan to show
> on my movie theater, you know, when I start selling movie tickets...
> the first movie is going to be a Horror movie?
>
> In the meantime...here is what kids like to watch:
> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/YT/Table-Theater-2-measure-abcdefg.html
>
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > You know what's wrong with these people who write and sell these horror stories...
> > inside their minds..
> > contains..
> > Evil.
> >
> > The Evil exist *only* in their minds.
> >
> > Then they put it on paper
> > They put it on screen
> >
> > and spread the Evil into the minds of your children.
> >
> > Evil exist only in one place in this world...in the mind.
> >
> > You know how it gets there. What are you going to do about it?
> >
> > The Starmaker
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > You scriptwriters should be stopped from writing this stuff, and the people who pay you for it are equally guilty!
> > > It should be a crime to write and sell this stuff!!
> > >
> > > You horror writers should be handcuffed, chained, Stabbed In The Chest, Tortured, Slit Wrists, Teeth Extraction, Knife In Back, Shot In The Head, Stabbed In The Ear,
> > > Knee In Groin, your Tongue Severed, your Hand Severed, Blood Splatter, splatter, splatter, splatter, ....
> > >
> > > The Starmaker
> > >
> > > I forgot to add "female nudity" and Murder Of Wife!
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > If a toy manufacture makes a toy that chokes a baby to death, they get rid of the toy...
> > > >
> > > > Shouldn't these people who write and make these movies be stopped? They are killing our children!
> > > >
> > > > I don't even want children reading the keywords!!!
> > > >
> > > > http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0364569/keywords
> > > >
> > > > http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0337636/keywords
> > > >
> > > > Plot keywords for
> > > > Hellraiser: Deader (2005) (V)
> > > > Lesbian Scene
> > > > Female Nudity
> > > > Hallucination
> > > > Bad Smell
> > > > Blood Splatter
> > > > Chosen One
> > > > Destiny
> > > > Handcuffs
> > > > Stabbed In The Chest
> > > > Back From The Dead
> > > > Chain
> > > > Hook
> > > > Subway
> > > > Slit Wrists
> > > > Romania
> > > > Shot In The Head
> > > > Male Nudity
> > > > Journalist
> > > > Severed Hand
> > > > Good Versus Evil
> > > > Gore
> > > > Knee In Groin
> > > > Suicide
> > > > Independent Film
> > > > Pinhead
> > > > Sequel
> > > > Torture
> > > >
> > > > Neo Noir
> > > > Disturbing
> > > > Gas Mask
> > > > Masturbation
> > > > Black Comedy
> > > > Violent Movie
> > > > Tooth Pulling
> > > > Severed Tongue
> > > > Based On Comic
> > > > Breasts
> > > > Vaginal Sex
> > > > Octopus
> > > > Hypnotism
> > > > Revenge
> > > > Suicide
> > > > Incest
> > > > Wallpaper
> > > > Flashback Sequence
> > > > Imprisonment
> > > > Jealousy
> > > > Torture
> > > > Manga
> > > > Anti Hero
> > > > Mysterious Villain
> > > > Bible Quote
> > > > Diary
> > > > Drunk Scene
> > > > Fall From Height
> > > > Framed For Murder
> > > > Game
> > > > Hammer
> > > > Handkerchief
> > > > Knife In Back
> > > > Long Take
> > > > Monster
> > > > Obscure Meaning
> > > > Pacemaker
> > > > Post Hypnotic Suggestion
> > > > Scissor Stabbing
> > > > Severed Hand
> > > > Shot In The Head
> > > > Sin
> > > > Stabbed In The Back
> > > > Stabbed In The Ear
> > > > Stockholm Sweden
> > > > Sushi
> > > > Tattoo
> > > > Teeth Extraction
> > > > Violence
> > > > False Imprisonment
> > > > Cell
> > > > Dark Comedy
> > > > Death Of Wife
> > > > Kidnapping
> > > > Murder Of Wife
> > > > Prison Cell
> > > > Television
> > > > Twist In The End
> > > > Surprise Ending
> > > >
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I was looking at this page
> > > > > because I was thinking
> > > > > "How come this guy doesn't write a novel?"
> > > > > I mean, he's might be the Stephen King of screenplays...
> > > > > (i never read a novel before)
> > > > > and he hangs out on screenplay writing newsgroups
> > > > > and he seems to specialize in Monster movies, or Horror movies...
> > > > > http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1521005/
> > > > >
> > > > > Surely he can take one of his screenplays he has
> > > > > hidden somewhere and make a novel out of it...
> > > > > or does it take too much work to write a novel?
> > > > >
> > > > > He's got some selling points!
> > > > >
> > > > > As a last resort, he can tell the publisher
> > > > >
> > > > > "If you re-arrange the letters of my name Neal Marshall Stevens, you come up with..
> > > > > Mr. Satan Enslaves Hell!"
> > > > >
> > > > > That alone can be a title for his next novel!!!!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > But what are these keywords I see?
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0337636/keywords
> > > > >
> > > > > Plot keywords for
> > > > > Hellraiser: Deader (2005) (V)
> > > > > Lesbian Scene
> > > > > Female Nudity
> > > > > Hallucination
> > > > > Bad Smell
> > > > > Blood Splatter
> > > > > Chosen One (Chosen One? What does that mean? How does that fit in? I smell cinnamon http://www.wishingfish.com/asskisser.html)
> > > > > Destiny
> > > > > Handcuffs
> > > > > Stabbed In The Chest
> > > > > Back From The Dead
> > > > > Chain
> > > > > Hook
> > > > > Subway
> > > > > Slit Wrists
> > > > > Romania
> > > > > Shot In The Head
> > > > > Male Nudity
> > > > > Journalist
> > > > > Severed Hand
> > > > > Good Versus Evil
> > > > > Gore
> > > > > Knee In Groin
> > > > > Suicide
> > > > > Independent Film
> > > > > Pinhead
> > > > > Sequel
> > > > > Torture
> > > > >
> > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > There might be a few, similarities....
> > > > > > > > http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0621061stone18.html
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0621061stone1.html
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ...might be a few similarties, but you have to prove access and
> > > > > > > it contains “substantial similarities”.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 12 minutes is not substantial.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The Starmaker
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > and contains also, unprotectable elements.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > *keywords:
> > > > > > > Paramount Pictures is suing a New York artist Chris Moukarbel for copyright infringement, claiming that the man used a "bootleg script" to create a knockoff version of director Oliver Stone's film.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I look at both sides
> > > > > > http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0621061stone18.html
> > > > > > and I cannot tell who stole from who!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You know that famous line from that movie A Street Car Name Desire?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Whoever you are, I have always depended on the kindness of strangers."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The writer *stole* that line from some other writer!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sorry to change your past...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Starmaker
> > > > > >
> > > > > > it's not what you don't know thats bad, ...it's what you know that ain't so.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and there are a lot of "it ain't so" that I see posted in newsgroups.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *(i wrote 'keywords' because i notice that things posted in
> > > > > > newsgroups are being fed into bloggers sites)

Anonymous said...

Starmaker what a load of neo-con bullshit. Why should a film studio be held responsible for the actions of one person? It is faulty logic like that which make America look like the worlds slow witted cousin. Besides all you probably watch is the Passion of the Christ and the 700 club. So stop pushing your Christian fallacy on the rest of us