tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6865007.post151557025076783145..comments2023-11-05T00:59:10.828-07:00Comments on decorabilia: Resolved: Justice requires the recognition of animal rights.Jim Andersonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09928624189124041120noreply@blogger.comBlogger54125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6865007.post-67245148272434115402011-10-16T14:56:35.387-07:002011-10-16T14:56:35.387-07:00I'm actually thinking about saying, for AFF, t...I'm actually thinking about saying, for AFF, that if we infringe on animals' rights (animals as non-human), then we are exposing our society to violence which we will be influenced by, and start to use more towards each other. Also, any civilization or nation is judged not how it treats the strong and priviliged, but how it treats the weak and needy. Hmmmm?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6865007.post-18803577070947108082011-10-04T17:29:35.082-07:002011-10-04T17:29:35.082-07:00Would it be plausible to argue that rights, in any...Would it be plausible to argue that rights, in any form, do not exist, thus, naturally, the demand that justice require something that does not exist cannot be affirmed.JJ1noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6865007.post-89623762227480393282011-09-28T16:59:53.903-07:002011-09-28T16:59:53.903-07:00You talked about taking the strategy towards aff t...You talked about taking the strategy towards aff that humans have rights and humans are animals. What type of Value and Value criterion pairs would you suggest?CCHSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6865007.post-31587425449232472732011-09-27T20:25:41.005-07:002011-09-27T20:25:41.005-07:00I would like to say to nylon1, while there maybe o...I would like to say to nylon1, while there maybe other ways of testing, science has not progressed far enough to where animal testing can be thrown out the window. Not only that you must look to the Animal Welfare Act which sets up that the minimum amount of care must be given to any animals in the industries. Think about it, so many cures and other things have been found due to animal testing. Wonder why smallpox and polio and other diseases are not such huge threats..you got it animal testing. If something has brought so much to the table of course we would be weary to get rid of it. <br /><br />Now to my question; as far as the AFF goes what are some strong recommendations for VC pairs.Colton(LA)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6865007.post-57286184025680036892011-09-27T13:02:50.451-07:002011-09-27T13:02:50.451-07:00Reposted as words missing in previous post. Should...Reposted as words missing in previous post. Should have read: <br /><br />As of today there are NO good reasons for animal testing. They have various other methods that do not require animals, such as cell cultures. But it's more $$ so they continue to torture animals. Check out Huntington Live science. The place is full of sadists. This kind of work is useless for the most part. Read up on SPLENDA testing and how they force fed bags of it till dogs died. WHY? Not only is this wrong to torture but it's useless info. Also many animal tests for medical purposes are useless as they need to be tested on humans.. or human cell cultures. As to animals rights. They feel, have emotions suffer pain. They should have the same respect as humans.nylon1noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6865007.post-38244524574656839782011-09-27T10:40:58.020-07:002011-09-27T10:40:58.020-07:00As of today there are NO reasons for animal testin...As of today there are NO reasons for animal testing. They have various other was such as cell cultures. But it's more $$ so they continue to torture animals. Check out Huntington Live science. The place is full of sadists. As to animals rights. They feel, have emotions suffer pain. They should have the same respect as humans.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6865007.post-48458359062534926102011-09-26T21:47:40.501-07:002011-09-26T21:47:40.501-07:00What are some examples of value criterions for thi...What are some examples of value criterions for this resolution?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6865007.post-66337816498506998362011-09-26T16:38:55.331-07:002011-09-26T16:38:55.331-07:00This is a redonculous topic.This is a redonculous topic.AboutNineInchesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6865007.post-83571384166776171732011-09-26T16:37:53.519-07:002011-09-26T16:37:53.519-07:00This is a redonculous topic.This is a redonculous topic.About9inchesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6865007.post-8172408554984471312011-09-25T12:34:10.894-07:002011-09-25T12:34:10.894-07:00what philosophers do you think match up with the n...what philosophers do you think match up with the neg and aff cases?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6865007.post-65091600187410642662011-09-24T12:13:22.610-07:002011-09-24T12:13:22.610-07:00MAKE A V/C LIST NOWMAKE A V/C LIST NOWtehenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6865007.post-12256641390518838622011-09-14T07:03:56.808-07:002011-09-14T07:03:56.808-07:00As you might have noticed, my blogging has all but...As you might have noticed, my blogging has all but vanished these past two weeks. Am I lazy? No. I've had a major life change, and school has resumed. Don't expect quick answers; do expect a major announcement.Jim Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09928624189124041120noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6865007.post-34409197012818323422011-09-14T04:20:19.599-07:002011-09-14T04:20:19.599-07:00Are you going to post any possible value/ value cr...Are you going to post any possible value/ value criterion pairs?Monoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6865007.post-36050848244645567122011-09-13T15:10:02.609-07:002011-09-13T15:10:02.609-07:00well, if you look at the resolution grammatically,...well, if you look at the resolution grammatically, rights does not have an apostrophe, meaning that the animals do not possess the rights. thus eliminating the aff. animals cannot possess rightsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6865007.post-12577047901979522422011-09-12T15:08:32.718-07:002011-09-12T15:08:32.718-07:00Hey first thnx for responding to my animal testing...Hey first thnx for responding to my animal testing question a few weeks ago (i was also the mcdonalds guy)<br /><br />I'm having trouble with my affirmative argument. My current plan is to make small changes to current system to make a practical, but more moral system. One change i plan on making on the aff is making so animals aren't awake when their heads are chopped off or skin removed. In order to support this in cross x, i was planning on asking my opponent why we have doctors knock us out b4 surgery. Obviously, it's to avoid being in pain. In my first rebuttal, i would say imagine going through surgery awake, and comparing that to 12 billion animals on a 4 hr basis. To put it short, we wouldn't want it to be done to us, so is it fair to do it to animals when it can be avoided?<br /><br />I know it's a lot, but please help me out, i really need help<br /> MarcAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6865007.post-84144177711000599862011-09-09T22:20:59.743-07:002011-09-09T22:20:59.743-07:00laziest. man. ever.laziest. man. ever.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6865007.post-45334210769613353602011-09-07T19:19:34.805-07:002011-09-07T19:19:34.805-07:00HUMANS AREN"T ANIMALS YOU FUCKSHUMANS AREN"T ANIMALS YOU FUCKSAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6865007.post-65158441801592511462011-09-05T11:40:28.681-07:002011-09-05T11:40:28.681-07:00can you hurry the fuck up with your responses? jes...can you hurry the fuck up with your responses? jesus, it's not that difficult you know -_-Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6865007.post-57510615418073141152011-09-04T18:55:46.674-07:002011-09-04T18:55:46.674-07:00What is a good value and criterion for AFF? i was ...What is a good value and criterion for AFF? i was thinking justice, but it seems all to vague.lordylordylordynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6865007.post-24385797476195222202011-09-03T17:38:58.152-07:002011-09-03T17:38:58.152-07:00I have to debate on this topic on Tuesday and Im a...I have to debate on this topic on Tuesday and Im a novice debater. This will be my first time ever! I was wondering what would be some good contentions for affermative and negative!(:Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6865007.post-88960607425949898722011-09-01T10:01:18.846-07:002011-09-01T10:01:18.846-07:00Penis.Penis.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6865007.post-58680686335281294382011-08-30T21:58:11.059-07:002011-08-30T21:58:11.059-07:00How does one go about arguing where rights come fr...How does one go about arguing where rights come from? There are certain worldviews where God(or certain gods or any god), social constructs, legal constructs, contracts, or utility do not matter. Arguing that rights are inherent is only supportable by someone saying so(unless I missed an argument for this), an authoritative logical fallacy. It seems to me that determining where rights come from(or for the neg, if they exist at all) is crucial to forming a case for either side of this topic. Thank you for your thoughts Mr. Anderson.<br /><br />Harma Dogshead, be careful using that argument. If you used that against me, I would just turn around and say that my opponent has made an ad hominem attack on me(and if I feel desperate, I might also include the judge in that). I ran into this type of bind with the juvenile topic last year.JohnMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6865007.post-14623994812843053972011-08-30T19:25:16.376-07:002011-08-30T19:25:16.376-07:00Has anyone thought of using Utility as a Negative ...Has anyone thought of using Utility as a Negative critereon? AS Utility is commonly defined- The greatest good for the greatest number of *people*?Corkynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6865007.post-60071507284573885812011-08-30T18:59:15.307-07:002011-08-30T18:59:15.307-07:00@Jim
MY rebuttle to that would be the potential o...@Jim<br /><br />MY rebuttle to that would be the potential of humans, and (not quite sure how to word it, help me out here please). Aided Direction from non-infants etc. <br /><br />Im pretty sure the first rebuttle is quite self explanatory, so i'll move on to the second. <br />What I'm propsing here is that even at a very small age infants begin to differintiate between right and wrong, more ever they can began to understand the communication from a more cognitively developed human (parents) one way or another. Thus Because HUMANS in general have the moral of responsibility and fit the social contract their off springs have the potent to learn this as well and may have Aid in the right direction. <br />Another idea would be possibly the idea of 'Justice being served'. Coming back to when there are rights, there are responsibilities Where as animals cannot be tried as that is complete ridicule there is no way of holding animals responsible. Everything comes back to the aspect of Morality however. We are not screening and filtering individual humans. The idea of wrongs and *RIGHTS* reside in humans and just do not in animals.. Thus we must negate. <br />--Any critiques?Corkynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6865007.post-42956574989583430142011-08-30T15:54:55.338-07:002011-08-30T15:54:55.338-07:00The sole thesis of my case is displaying to basic ...The sole thesis of my case is displaying to basic syllogism of how 1)These are rights, 2)Humans have rights because of X, 3)Animals have X, 4) Therefore, they have rights. And in order for us to be consistent with the system of justice, we must provide equity to animals and humans, making my value justice. But what would a matching criterion be?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com